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updated because of trickle charge
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@ -11,14 +11,21 @@ A1: Player: the charging is all done by hardware and the exact
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Q2: Will keeping my charger connected a long time damage my batteries? Can I
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leave it over night?
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A2: The charger logic lets the batteries charge until they are full. After
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that, the charger is disabled, but the device will stay powered on and
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continue to consume some power from the batteries (the hardware does
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not allow running from the charger without charging batteries, or
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powering off with the charger connected). After some time, it will
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start charging the batteries again to keep them full. This will
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wear the batteries a little, but overnight charging is what most
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people do.
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A2: There's a deep discharge mode and you can switch trickle charge on and off.
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If you use your AJB connected to the power supply the whole time, select
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"deep discharge on" and "trickle charge off". If you want to charge your
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AJB over night and take it with you the next day, select "deep discharge
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off" (that it starts charging immediately) and "trickle charge on"
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(that the batteries remain full).
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Trickle charge is needed to keep the batteries full. That's necessary because
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the device will stay powered on and continue to consume some power from
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the batteries (the hardware does not allow running from the charger
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without charging batteries, or powering off with the charger connected).
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The trickle charge time is 12 hours. It should be enough for you to disconnect
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your AJB in this time and turn it off / use it.
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However, after 12 hours of trickle charge, it will turn it off, the batteries
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are discharged and another charge cycle is started.
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As the Battery FAQ at http://www.greenbatteries.com/ puts it:
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"A NiMH battery can be charged and discharged hundreds of times,
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@ -30,18 +37,22 @@ Q3: Does Rockbox charge the batteries more/less/worse/better than the Archos
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A3: Player: Rockbox doesn't affect the charging on Players, it is all done
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by hardware logic out of software control.
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Recorder: The current release of 1.2 is much worse than the Archos
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charger, it tends to stop charging much too early and leave the batteries
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half empty.
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The current development code (CVS daily builds as of 20.8.2002) is much
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better than the 1.2 release, but still not perfect. Linus recently
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measured 6 hours continuous playtime after a rockbox charge, and much
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over 7 hours after an Archos charge. We are working on fine-tuning
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the charger logic to get the most out of the batteries, but the
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emphasis is on not overcharging them, since that would damage the
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batteries. Better be safe than sorry.
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Recorder: The whole algorithm is made to carefully charge the batteries full
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and keep them full after that with a trickle charge option. Many documents
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about charge ICs were considered. If you want to know details, then look
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into docs/CHARGING_ALGORITHM. If you have comments, write to
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mail@uwe-freese.de or the Rockbox mailinglist.
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Test results with trickle charge (battery capacities measured with an
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external charger, Model "Conrad Electronic Charge Manager 2010", ~100 EUR):
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- after normal charge and top off time: 1798, 1834, 1819, 1815 mAh
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- after normal + top off + trickle charge (12h): 1784, 1748, 1738, 1752 mAh
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- charged with external charger: 1786, 1819, 1802, 1802 mAh
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You can see, whenever you take your AJB with you in the 12h trickle charge
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period, the batteries are at least 97% full. :)
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Q4: What kind of batteries are there in my factory default Player/Recorder?
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A4: Both ship with 1500 mAh NiMH (Nickel Metal Hydride) batteries.
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@ -63,13 +74,15 @@ A6: http://www.greenbatteries.com sells 1800 mAh NiMH cells at $3.25USD each,
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online shops. Browse around. There's a pretty good comparison between
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different battery makes and models at the digital imaging resource site:
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http://www.imaging-resource.com/ACCS/BATTS/BATTS.HTM
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In Germany, www.reichelt.de sells GP 2000 batteries for 2,75 EUR (12/2002).
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Q7: What kind of run-time can I expect on a set of fully-charged batteries
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when running Rockbox?
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A7: For the stock 1500 mAh cells, from 6 hours to 8 hours, depending on
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which charger was used (see Q3). It depends a lot on the condition of
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the batteries. We are looking into implementing more battery-saving
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techniques in rockbox to make it rock longer.
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which charger was used (see Q3). It depends a lot on the condition of the
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batteries. With 2000 mAh batteries, you should reach about 10 hours or more.
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We are looking into implementing more battery-saving techniques in rockbox
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to make it rock longer.
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Q8: Can I use different batteries in my Archos? How much playtime would
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I gain by using 1800 mAh batteries instead of the 1500 mAh ones?
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@ -205,4 +218,3 @@ A15: That depends on who you ask. ;-) NiMH sellers say NiMHs are better and
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However, if you use your AJB connected to the charger all the time,
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we recommend you to use the deep discharge option.
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